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	<title>Comments on: WiFi on airlines</title>
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		<title>By: Rosyna</title>
		<link>http://outofcheese.org/2007/04/03/wifi-on-airlines/comment-page-1/#comment-884</link>
		<dc:creator>Rosyna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Apr 2007 17:35:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But, yeah.. it was totally awesome being able to read fark at ten thousand feet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But, yeah.. it was totally awesome being able to read fark at ten thousand feet.</p>
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		<title>By: Rosyna</title>
		<link>http://outofcheese.org/2007/04/03/wifi-on-airlines/comment-page-1/#comment-883</link>
		<dc:creator>Rosyna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Apr 2007 17:31:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had free wifi on a plane from SFO to Narita, Tokyo (everyone on the plane did). I was in economy class. It was quite the awesome. But I did not trust the connection. With so many people in such a small space, any one of them could have been capturing packets. Unless the Apple people, I have NO idea how to set up a vpn for all traffic to be redirected securely to my house.

Also, the latency sucked. So if Skype sends a lot of small packets, it may be unusable anyways. Then again, people really, really don&#039;t want others talking on the phone in a loud voice over the network when in such cramped quarters.

The people in business class and first class had wired RJ-45 lovin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had free wifi on a plane from SFO to Narita, Tokyo (everyone on the plane did). I was in economy class. It was quite the awesome. But I did not trust the connection. With so many people in such a small space, any one of them could have been capturing packets. Unless the Apple people, I have NO idea how to set up a vpn for all traffic to be redirected securely to my house.</p>
<p>Also, the latency sucked. So if Skype sends a lot of small packets, it may be unusable anyways. Then again, people really, really don&#8217;t want others talking on the phone in a loud voice over the network when in such cramped quarters.</p>
<p>The people in business class and first class had wired RJ-45 lovin.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel J. Luke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel J. Luke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Apr 2007 15:41:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If there is a technical reason, it&#039;s related to the characteristics of VOIP.

In other words, since VOIP doesn&#039;t require lots of bandwidth, it&#039;s not that. VOIP doesn&#039;t work well with lots of latency (but even if it&#039;s a high latency link, they probably wouldn&#039;t actively block VOIP as people would just not use it since it wouldn&#039;t be all that useful). VOIP does, however, end up sending lots of tiny packets. Perhaps the equipment isn&#039;t well suited for high pps rates?</description>
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<p>In other words, since VOIP doesn&#8217;t require lots of bandwidth, it&#8217;s not that. VOIP doesn&#8217;t work well with lots of latency (but even if it&#8217;s a high latency link, they probably wouldn&#8217;t actively block VOIP as people would just not use it since it wouldn&#8217;t be all that useful). VOIP does, however, end up sending lots of tiny packets. Perhaps the equipment isn&#8217;t well suited for high pps rates?</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Kovatch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Kovatch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Apr 2007 15:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thik Erik is right. One of the big objections to cell phones on planes isn&#039;t so much the possibility of interference, but rather that people will be yammering all the time, and given the noise in the cabin of most airplanes, you&#039;ll have to practically yell to be heard, anyway. It&#039;s nice to have a few hours of FAA-enforced silence when traveling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thik Erik is right. One of the big objections to cell phones on planes isn&#8217;t so much the possibility of interference, but rather that people will be yammering all the time, and given the noise in the cabin of most airplanes, you&#8217;ll have to practically yell to be heard, anyway. It&#8217;s nice to have a few hours of FAA-enforced silence when traveling.</p>
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		<title>By: Stuart Morgan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stuart Morgan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Apr 2007 15:24:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alternately (assuming that this is a different company), there may well be exclusivity clauses in the contract with whoever provides the back-of-the-seat phone service which prevents the WiFi provider from stepping on their toes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alternately (assuming that this is a different company), there may well be exclusivity clauses in the contract with whoever provides the back-of-the-seat phone service which prevents the WiFi provider from stepping on their toes.</p>
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		<title>By: Erik J. Barzeski</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erik J. Barzeski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Apr 2007 14:50:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It strikes me that this may be more about preserving bandwidth for other customers rather than disallowing services or a certain kind of broadcast. Not to mention that all that talking could possibly annoy other customers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It strikes me that this may be more about preserving bandwidth for other customers rather than disallowing services or a certain kind of broadcast. Not to mention that all that talking could possibly annoy other customers.</p>
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